Late night TV shows as a format are way, way past their sell-by date. I think they'd do well to experiment with other formats and delivery channels, before they get canceled altogether.
>Noah’s premiere episode as The Daily Show host in September 2015 garnered 3.47 million viewers, directly on par with Jon Stewart’s final episode a month prior.
> That year, The Daily Show averaged 1.1 million viewers, lagging somewhat behind broadcast shows like NBC’s The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon (3.78 million), CBS’ The Late Show With Stephen Colbert (3.17 million) and ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel Live! (2.53 million), according to Variety.
"Those are not comparable!" you say? Exactly. Rogan and Gross are people who have one guest at a time and actually talk to them. It's pretty clear that audiences are starting to prefer that.
Does that bother you for some reason? All of TV audiences have plummeted for individual shows, because we're all watching different things now.
But I think the majority of late night viewing may be on YouTube the next day. It certainly seems to be thriving there. At least when there isn't a writer's strike.
I don't know why you personally want talk shows shut down. Many millions of people enjoy them, and if that pays their bills, then what does it matter to you?
It's not like 12:00 am is a super coveted slot that they're taking away from something else that would be more popular at that time.
No, does it bother you to see late night shows attacked? Apparently it does since you keep replying.
This was originally a comment about the late night shows shutting down for lack of writers.
If TV executives are considering dropping them altogether and turning the time slot back to local stations, that must mean they're really doing worse than the other shows.
This sentence doesn't even parse:
> Many millions of people enjoy them, and if that pays their bills,
whose bills? the "millions" who enjoy them?
> It certainly seems to be thriving there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTmk7X8vGQk has 3.3M views, and that's a "best of" collection. What's the viewership each day, and is that the whole show or just a few excerpts?
> No, does it bother you to see late night shows attacked?
You literally started by telling them to "Just shut down" and criticizing hosts for not writing all their material. All your comments indicate you're bothered. It's just curious to me that rather than simply not watch the shows, you're actively attacking them and wishing they'd shut down.
>> Many millions of people enjoy them, and if that pays their bills,
> whose bills? the "millions" who enjoy them?
Pays the bills of the networks. In other words, if the shows are profitable. They wouldn't keep going if they weren't profitable.
Then it would have been obvious what was going on. But I hate being obvious. It ruins the impact.
The opening, "Oh, no. Those late night comedians might actually have to think up their clever monologs! Like they did when they were struggling stand-up comedians. They might have to interview their guests as if they actually knew anything about them." was supposed to serve that purpose.
You think late-night shows are bad and you think they should end.
I got that from the start. There's no irony involved with that.
But there are lots of people who like late night shows as well, which is what keeps them on the air and on YouTube. TV shows shouldn't end just because you don't like them.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/09/30/how-l...
>Noah’s premiere episode as The Daily Show host in September 2015 garnered 3.47 million viewers, directly on par with Jon Stewart’s final episode a month prior.
> That year, The Daily Show averaged 1.1 million viewers, lagging somewhat behind broadcast shows like NBC’s The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon (3.78 million), CBS’ The Late Show With Stephen Colbert (3.17 million) and ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel Live! (2.53 million), according to Variety.
https://archive.ph/7HBWK
Meantime, Joe Rogan averages 11 million listeners per episode:
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-what-joe-rogan-s-viewer...
I suspect Fresh Air (Terry Gross) also beats them all, although that number seems a little harder to get specifically:
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/fact-sheet/audio-and-...
"Those are not comparable!" you say? Exactly. Rogan and Gross are people who have one guest at a time and actually talk to them. It's pretty clear that audiences are starting to prefer that.