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I followed his email guide but installed mailinaabox. I was able to install it in one go about 4 years ago.

Smooth sailing since.

This is a goldmine


been following the case since day 1. Its sad that the order does not talk about any of the points raised by scihub. This appears to me a one-sided order where the judge (we do not have jury concept in india) might have been a case of "we are copyright holders, our rights trump everything" when the case is for public good and fair use.

Fair use was not explained and the plaintiffs took an argument that since alexandria is not an indian citizen or not in india, she does not fear indian laws and that somehow might have tipped the scales.

I am sure this would be appealed and i would like to join in, i already tried to contact people few years ago but life got in the way.

btw, i am a licensed indian lawyer


i wonder if the backend is open source because i want to replicate the process in a different legal jurisdiction


First time I've heard about apagard royal. In India it costs ₹5145 or $60 appprox.

Thats... substantially more expensive than regular toothpaste. Which costs ₹100-₹200 or $2-3.


Regular toothpaste is just detergent (SLS) with sand (silica) and smelting waste (fluoride) added. Not surprised


You haven't experienced UPI. Its a breeze. Everything works with everything else.


How does it solve these issues?


Is there a cheap device you can make yourself or buy from India? Flipper zero is not easy if not impossible to buy.

For this project let's say


I get a 6 monthly KUB ultrasound and xray for around 1k inr which is around us$10. If I go to a government hospital and ask the emergency doctor for a test when there is a lean time for them, they prescribe the test and its done for a hundred bucks or $1.


Im.not a dev so i dont use these vs code forks...

How is one fork different from cursor or kiro or something else?

Arent these like what i assume skinning chromium or something more ?


If you download to your PC and run locally, what will happen?


Picture your PC as a cheery little planet in the EU’s cosmic backwater, sipping a digital Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster. You download Pangu Pro MoE, hit “run,” and expect to chat with an AI wiser than Deep Thought. Instead, you’ve hailed a Vogon Demolition Fleet. Your machine starts moaning like Marvin with a hangover, your screen spews gibberish that could pass for Vogon poetry, and your poor rig might implode faster than Earth making way for a hyperspace bypass.

The fallout? This AI’s sneakier than a two-headed president—it could snitch to its creators quicker than you can say “Don’t Panic.” If they spot your EU coordinates, you’re in for a galactic stink-eye, with your setup potentially bricked or your data hitchhiking to a dodgy server at the edge of the galaxy. Worse, if the code’s got a nasty streak, your PC could end up a smoking crater, reciting bad poetry in binary.


To translate for those not familiar with the writings of Douglas Adams:

nord is suggesting it's possible that the physical computer running this model could be used as a "hub" for potential spyware, or be overloaded with workloads that are not related to the actual task of running the model (and instead may be some form of malware performing other computational tasks). It could potentially perform data exfiltration, or act discriminatorily based on your percieved location (such as if you're located within the EU). At worst, data loss or firmware corruption/infection may be of concern in case of license violation.

I'm not sure I would outright disagree that this as possible, but with some caveats. I would think the reason that the license stipulates that usage within the EU is forbidden due to the EU AI Act (here is a resource to read through it: https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/ai-act-explorer/).


how will the "open weights" know that the pc is running within EU? again, you are not talking about software that actually runs in your pc but the file that the software reads and loads into memory for its own use.


No it's actually worse. Approximately three seconds after you install the model in offline mode on your computer, a small detector van will come and park outside your door with an antenna on the roof, and relay your position to a Chinese ICBM for immediate targeting.


>If they spot your EU coordinates how.

can anyone give a technical answer how will weights get to know this fact?


Sorry, sounds like total bullshit. The weights aren't going to do anything. And if you are worried about the code, with current deployment practices of curl | sudo bash there are much more low-hanging fruits out there. That's not even mentioning the possibility of running the model on a PC without internet access (no matter how good the new Chinese AI is, it's still not good enough yet to convince you to let it out of the box).


you can use existing apps that take random huggingface files, do you expect weights to somehow coax the software to do exfiltration?

same. i call bull on this.

remember how they convinced huawei was public enemy without evidence because nokia and others were unable to compete with them?


with mcp, and the right tools, it's effectively already out of the box


Don't give it mcp then (and I struggle to understand why would anyone give a stochastic model such access even if it is trained on very American NSA-certified hardware approved by Sam Altman himself).


a siren will go off and in 10 secs your computer will explode


The same thing that usually happens when you violate TOC …

Probably safe enough on your own computer, but could have consequences if it’s a work computer.


>could have consequences if it’s a work computer.

consequences for employer who "might" get a license audit done on their machines.

does it really happen so often that a random employer in the eu would have to be concerned?


consequences for you when you unwittingly open up a back door or expose your organisation to a data breach


You'll be both breaking their licence and potentially your local European data laws.


so what. will they send cops after you.

breaking license will do what? whats up with licenses and violations? you and me are random people on internet


>breaking license will do what?

The same thing breaking any license does. If you do it in your basement, nothing by definition. If you incorporate it in a service or distribute it as part of a project, well then you're on the hook. (and that is what license holders tend to care about)


" potentially your local European data laws."

If run locally, why?


I called him out in another thread. It makes absolutely no sense. He is talking against himself, judging by his comments.

To answer your question, he modified my comment (see the parentheses):

"> The point is, who gives a damn about (doing an illegal thing) in reality, on their (private property where nobody is likely to see that)?"

So... at best what he said is purely theoretical. He admitted it himself: "nobody is likely to see that". Though I am not sure I agree with it, but then again, in reality, no one gives a fuck, at least not in Europe.


There are likely multiple potential issues here, but one specific example: Processing and storage of PII without consent/authorisation is not allowed, regardless of whether you do it yourself or for others. And you can't guarantee that this model does not contain private information hoovered up by accident.


energy consumption


> I think the post office could have been this

Explain. Id like to.know


I was responding to this aspect:

> it bugged me for a long time why a person can't store facts about themselves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_savings_system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Savings_S...

Hypothetically, you could have sent 0.01 to a friend and use the memo field as a poor man's postcard with free postage, provided in-system transactions were free, which they arguably ought to be, but likely never were or would be in actuality.


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