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Screens are mandatory, because backup cameras are now mandatory.

Sure, but no one said the screen has to be size of an ipad glued to your dashboard. My 2022 Volkswagen e-Up has a reverse camera and it's shown on a display maybe 2 inches large. And it's perfectly usable, I actually really like how minimalistic that is. There's no "infotainment" of any kind either, it's just a simple radio/bluetooth selection screen when the camera isn't in use.

The size regulation is based on viewing angle. For a tiny car like e-Up you are seated very close to the screen, so it can be smaller. For larger cars, you are seated further away from the dash and the screens must be proportionally larger.

PSA: If a probiotic is on the shelf, not in a cooler, it's probably not worth buying. The best companies certify the count of organisms at time of manufacture, but no counts are guaranteed at the shelf. Probiotics are living organisms and ought to be refrigerated for max lifespan.

You can get refrigerated probiotic supps at a place like Whole Foods.

Source: I used to work in the industry.


When I asked my doctor about which kinds of probiotics are most effective she specifically mentioned refrigerated vs non-refrigerated is not a way to identify quality or effectiveness unless you know the specific strain(s) needed cannot be made shelf-stable. This lined up with asking my endodontist after they prescribed some antibiotics for a tooth infection. They did warn that the use by dates are a bit bull, not to stock up on them as they do deteriorate in quality with time, and not to try to keep even the shelf-stable ones above room temperature.

Maybe I misunderstood what my doctor said, maybe my doctor was just wrong, maybe it's actually extremely nuanced, maybe it's something I hadn't even considered. I guess all I'm saying is it's probably better to talk to your doctor(s) about it than follow self-sourced (in both the above and this comment) medical advice from HN.


Also frankly, doctor =/= expert on probiotics.

None of their training really addresses that and while they might be more qualified to read research than random layman I would not in general ascribe authority to what a random practitioner has to say about probiotics. Frankly, the research on probiotics is still very much in its infancy and a LOT remains to be figured out.


Absolutely, if you have access to domain specific experts or researchers than that should trump whatever your more generalized expert will say.

Also right to highlight that just because there exist specialist in something does not mean we have the full or correct understanding yet, it's just your best place to find information regarding it unless you want to go join the field.

Great points!


> doctor =/= expert on probiotics

Medical microbiologists would love to have a word with you. Medicine and medicine-adjacent disciplines each develop institutional knowledge that percolates from each specialized discipline.

> …the research on probiotics is still very much in its infancy and a LOT remains to be figured out.

I’m curious who you think does the research. It’s certainly not Bubba from down the creek.


PhDs do the research. Not your typical overworked family practitioner.

>self-sourced

It's not "self-sourced" whatever that means (like that's a bad thing per se?). I saw the sausage being made and I spoke to the sausage makers. The source is the sausage makers, not me. Sorry I don't have a link. These facts may or may not be trade secrets.


"Self-sourced" as in both of our comments are hearsay: we say we heard this information from someone and our source for that is only us saying so. That's pretty bad in terms of what others can actually do with that information (from either of our comments). Not just because hearsay can be faked, but more because it's unquestionable, untestable, and the quality of the information has almost always greatly degraded compared to the source.

This doesn't mean the comments should be assumed to be false any more than they should be assumed to be true. It also doesn't imply we necessarily have some way to provide an actual source either. Just that folks will have to go elsewhere if they want any certainty about this information, since we didn't provide any as random usernames on a message board saying we heard something before.


> maybe my doctor was just wrong

Yes, doctors are similar to mechanics or any other trade, in that some simply suck.

Some got Ds.


“ and not to try to keep even the shelf-stable ones above room temperature.” - hate to ask, but night brain kicked in - could I trouble you to give me an alternative way of phrasing this? I keep parsing it as “don’t even bother trying to keep probiotics warm”

No night brain, just a good splice on my part after editing that sentence down :). stavros has a great rewrite already, but an even more succinct one for just the particular snippet could be:

"even shelf-stable probiotics should not be kept above room temperature".


"Even the ones that can be kept outside a fridge shouldn't be kept above room temperature".

There are some newer types of probiotics (called "spore-based") which claim better shelf stability (don't require refrigeration) and resistance (to populate further down the digestive system). But you're absolutely right, they tend to die off pretty quickly (be extra weary of ordering them online, especially during the summer if they're going to sit around in a hot delivery truck or mailbox!).

That is more around solving a different problem than shelf-stability, which is the fact that most probiotics targeting the intestines don't survive in great measure beyond the stomach.

> The best companies certify the count of organisms at time of manufacture

The best companies certify the viable count at expiration, I've seen many that do.

There is a difference between probiotics in live culture and shelf stable products but both can be viable methods of delivery.


They sell a yogurt starter that is purportedly Salivarius and ruteirii culture over at Beazos' Clubhouse. I haven't had it tested but it's way easier than the usual Bulgarian microbes. Assuming the cultures are as labeled, I have to imagine eating live culture yogurt is more likely to propogate than loszenges made in a factory though.

what kind of cooler, near zero or just yogurt level temperatures ?

Freezing has potential to cause damage to the organisms, safer to refrigerate (and consume asap)

does this apply universally to bacterial strains ?


The Internet almost universally disagrees, based on a quick search:

https://seed.com/cultured/probiotics-refrigeration-storage-g...


Lyophilization is a fancy word for freeze-drying. "If a probiotic is refrigerated, it doesn’t mean it’s a better quality" is of course true. But nothing that I said is false. If I am getting probiotics from a quality source, I am going to prefer the refrigerated product over the "shelf-stable" one every time.

There's a difference between "choosing one over the other" and the original claim of shelf stabilized probiotics being not worth buying.

On a few occasions when my dog has gotten sick, or needed antibiotics, shelf stabilized probiotics cleaned their digestion right up.

Are strains that only survive when refrigerated probably a higher count? Maybe. Are there stains that are better but can't be freeze dried? Probably. Are there shelf stable probiotics that are worth buying, especially if you don't have access to refrigerated stuff? Absolutely!


I never denied any of that. Read my comment again, more carefully.

The very first line of your comment:

> PSA: If a probiotic is on the shelf, not in a cooler, it's probably not worth buying.

is exactly what I was responding to, along with your one word response "Yes" to that applying equally to all bacterial strains, which is also untrue.


Why do you think they’re here, sharing the info with you?

If you could just Google it up, not nearly as interesting to HN.


Thank you

AOT overhead 200MB (ensuring app loads fast)

Frameworks 150MB

Assets for all screen resolutions 50MB

Google Meet/Chat/etc 100MB

AI models 25MB


> OT overhead 200MB (ensuring app loads fast)

Yet there is a positive correlation between size and startup time…


I find "ensuring app loads fast" to be absolutely hilarious, here. What has to be done to help a mail app load fast?

And, snarkily, can they do this for the web page? On my decent connection right now, loading a new tab to gmail takes about 3 seconds to visibly load. Another few seconds to get so that I can interact with it. Is kind of hilarious to see how long it takes to load the compose window if I press "c" as soon as I see any of the app has loaded.


Starting with machine code expands lines of code 2-10x.

It's also taking helper functions and pre-evaluating them putting results inline, and unrolls loops (could be 5-50x increase where they exist?)

And it precalculates lookup tables (takes up space) for virtual methods.


Right, I know what sort of things happen in that process. And to be fair, I'm mainly poking fun at how bad the web page has become.

I do feel that this bloat is, far and away, the worst offender when it comes to why things feel slower nowadays. The application just flat out does way more than most people assume it can. Which means it almost certainly has way more capabilities than it needs for many of us.

Would be neat to see a metric on "how much of the code is never loaded" in typical use. Akin to some game medals of "played more than x% of players."


AOT = Ahead Of Time? Attack On Titan? Something else?

Mobile applications need to be AOT (Ahead of Time) compiled for the target device to have optimal performance.

it's ahead of time and AOT compilation is done at OS startup, not sure if that is being measured here.

OS startup? AOT compilation happens in the build pipeline, before the app is distributed.

AOT is unique because you want to compile it with all the capabilities your device has, so there still has to be some complication done, especially when you have processors that have brand new instructions to make operations significantly more efficient.

Wouldn't compilation during the build process be ROT? As in, "Right On Time" compilation? Build is where the compilation step is usually performed.

I don't think iOS does any on-device or in-app-store compilation since Apple deprecated Bitcode.


Didn't this use to be called "compilation"?

Yes, but then JIT (just in time) compilation became commonplace, so now it is often useful to distinguish between AOT and JIT.

Yes, and landline phones used to be called "phones".

Didn't we just do something like that in Iran? Not helicopters, but we still secured the airspace just the same.

Securing airspace for fancy stealth bombers is rather different from securing airspace for helicopters you can shoot down with just about anything.

If you mean during the israel-iran war, israel was allegedly using non-stealth planes once the airspace was secure.

Still probably quite a bit different then helicopter inserted decapitation strike.


I think the non-stealth planes used by Israel were unmanned drones

Yes. A long sentence can be thought of as a room, not a hallway.

I learned in high school lit that sentence length is an artistic choice as meaningful as word selection: long sentences can reflect stream of consciousness, recursive thought, associative or digressive exploration. Short sentences can reflect anxiety, urgency, vigilance, cognitive compression.

There are a lot of factors that have led to the decay of long sentences. Scientific writing norms, ubiquitous style guides like Strunk & White, modern distraction/multitasking/short(er)-form content, and my favorite, impoverished education - and the concomitant lack of trust in the reader on the part of the author.


> concomitant

Thanks for the new word! Native speaker but I’ve never seen/heard that one before. Might be more common in a commonwealth country though tbf.


> Yes. A long sentence can be thought of as a room, not a hallway.

The irony of this post having an initial sentence consisting of one word is either a sublime statement regarding the topic at hand or an unintentional affirmation of the subsequent factors enumerated.


That makes sense. Why does least squares skew the line downwards though (Vs some other direction)? Seems arbitrary

The Pythagorean distance would assume that some of the distance (difference) is on the x axis, and some on the y axis, and the total distance is orthogonal to the fitted line.

OLS assumes that x is given, and the distance is entirely due to the variance in y, (so parallel to the y axis). It’s not the line that’s skewed, it’s the space.


I think it has to do with the ratio of \Sigma_xx, \Sigma_yy. I don't have time to verify that, but it should be easy to check analytically.

So when fitting a trend, e.g. for data analytics, should we use eigenvector of the PCA instead of linear regression?

(Generalized) linear models have a straightforward probabilistic interpretation -- E(Y|X) -- which I don't think is true of total least squares. So it's more of an engineering solution to the problem, and in statistics you'd be more likely to go for other methods such as regression calibration to deal with measurement error in the independent variables.

>Designed for doing, not doomscrolling.

It still has a touchscreen, right? And it even has a blinky light up button on the side, something iPhone doesn't. I read the homepage, but I couldn't figure out how this phone was "anti-doomscrolling" - what am I missing?


The "small" screen is supposed to deter social media and video use.

I find that the Unihertz Titan 2 with its capacitive scrolling physical keyboard to be an even better reading/doomscrolling vessel than a long touch screen phone where the act of scrolling may accidentally open something.

The Clicks Communicator appears to be a bit smaller than the chonky Titan 2, but for those looking to end doom scrolling, this might not be the phone for you.

That said, using a rectangular phone does make the device unappealing for most video based platforms (which are all either in widescreen or tall landscape mode). It'll do in a pinch, but a square screen is pretty good at making Youtube/Tiktok/etc. less appealing.


It deters any kind of use outside texting.

Apps won't render properly on too small a screen (e.g. Google Maps). Good luck reading a website on a 4" square screen too


Reading websites should be no problem if pagination is used instead of scrolling.

Yea good luck restricting yourself to those

Pagination would be a feature of the browser of course, not of the websites.

Kamala Harris, citing seemingly classified intelligence, famously raised the alarm on Bluetooth earphones to Stephen Colbert:

“I know I've been teased about this, but I like these kinds of earpods that have the thing [pointing to the wire] because I served on the Senate Intelligence Committee. I have been in classified briefings, and I'm telling you, don't be on the train using your earpods thinking somebody can't listen to your conversation.”

https://www.aol.com/kamala-harris-warns-against-wireless-150...


I doubt this was ever classified information. It's written all over DoD and NSA requirements and best practices for staff and diplomats.

She was probably briefed repeatedly about this as a member of that committee.

Here's one example:

> Headphones are wired headphones (i.e. not wireless) which can be plugged into a computing device to listen to audio media (e.g. music, Defense Collaboration Services, etc.).[0]

[0]: https://dl.dod.cyber.mil/wp-content/uploads/stigs/pdf/2016-0...


>I doubt this was ever classified information.

The classified part would be the intelligence that the wireless protocol is compromised. I don't see that in your document.


That's not intelligence, just a precaution.

A precaution presumably based on intelligence. The (presumed) intelligence that the wireless protocol is compromised. As I said before.

Literally common sense since the beginning of wireless communications and coms in general.

The best design is invisible

You can only be blind for things you cannot notice.

What you cannot notice is what shapes your "noticement" ability.

The best design is the shape of your perception.

The best design is already implemented in your reception of reality.

The quest for "good design" is a game.

On the other hand, your aesthetical culture and the shape of your perception create a system in which elements are more or less "understandable", "readable", "accessible".

The game of design does not have stable rules and is inconsistent among world populations.

"No design" is impossible, the nature of reality is such that entities are embodied. To be embodied is to be rendered in the game of design.

Ideas are not embodied OR their apparent embodiment in the game of design (electrical information ?) does not contain their content for the observer.

"No design" is perceptually inintelligible.


Sure, the medium is the message. But if the medium distracts from the message it means they are not aligned well

(side note I put your comment into LLM to make sense of what it meant re my comment without mentioning HN, it said "this is a classic Hacker News–style metaphysical sidestep: You made a practical design aphorism, He responded with ontology and epistemology. That usually signals polite disagreement or intellectual one‑upmanship" LOL)


> (side note I put your comment into LLM to make sense of what it meant re my comment without mentioning HN, it said "this is a classic Hacker News–style metaphysical sidestep: You made a practical design aphorism, He responded with ontology and epistemology. That usually signals polite disagreement or intellectual one‑upmanship" LOL)

Woah homie, watch out for the model which is trained on reddit comments dataset to talk about intellectual one-upmanship xD

Also another thing but holy shit, LLM's are sycophantic man, it tries uses big words itself to show how the person has intellectual one-upmanship while cozying you up by saying practical design aphorism.

Like I agree with both of you guys and there's nuance but I am pretty sure that nobody's tryna sound intellectual hopefully.

Sorry for turning this into a rant about LLM's being sycophantic but man I tried today watching big bang and asked it if sheldon and raj were better duo in more common about physics (theorist and astrophysicist) since I was watching a episode where they both have dark matter in common and chatgpt agreed

Then I just felt the sycophancy in my heart so I opened up a new thread and I think I used the same prompt and changed it to sheldon and leonard and it ended up saying yes again.

The problem felt so annoying to me that I ended up looking at a sycophancy index being frustrated of sorts and wrote a lengthy ddg prompt lol to find this https://www.glazebench.com/

We really don't need more yes man's in our lives and honestly I will take up a less intelligent model than a sycophantic one. So I am curious what your guys opinion are on it too as sometimes I use LLM's as a search engines to familiarize myself with things I don't know and I am lately feeling it will just say yes to anything even silly ideas so I would never know what's the truth matter of the reality ykwim?


LLMs say yes to a lot. I often find myself priming it first with "absolute mode" type prompts before dealing with it. And also keeping my own opinions close to my chest

Seriously for my part, LLMs incarns exactly the only type of person that can break my nerves. Far too often I spot an hallucination, some bullshit rambling, sycophancy, or ----hughhhhh----- rethorical elements of language that makes me go mad :(.

examples for ---hughhhhh--- inducing stuff :

"I'll be blunt !"

"Here's the ground truth, no bullshit"

"Bottom line : <UPPER CASE EXPRESSION>"

"No fluff, technical, precise, no bullshit, devoid of unnecessary rethorical shapes, <etc..."

"Blunt answer: <bold text>"

"<title> : the hard truth"

I am becoming snob ?


No, you are human.

We can hope that "Elements of Style", or similar, comes back into fashion.


Pragmatically, you can design things to be highly readable for yourself and people that are "like you".

Alignment between the shape and the content is done in a circular fashion : what you see educates you to fabulate about design, once you fabulated enough you begin to say things are bad or well designed.

I often express myself online by writing a bit what goes through my mind, in a joyful and not very attentive manner, and I find it amusing to be barely understandable sometimes (I like the fact you had to use an LLM, lol) because, well, I feel it may bring a certain color to the otherwise often too uniform and immediate/instantaneous world of internet -- So, what I said previously is also mostly what occurs when you let your mind wander;

now, if I rejoin my own person and body, I can agree with you that my culture of good design is about the testimony of the removal of intention, in such a way that I feel content is highly readable, (fictionnaly) devoid of style, and somewhat raw or pure.

But again, at the "philosophical stage" all of this is pure fiction, and with a certain mindset, I am pretty sure I could shift my habits to adapt to what I feel as weird design, ugly, barely readable etc... It would be totally useless and absurd, but I could (given I have no specific perception-related medical conditions) !

We saw the web become a repetition of the same design, and while it IS good design in our "minimalism" addicted brains, I am pretty sure stumbling upon weiiiiird websites makes us great good sometimes, so much that maybe we also start to think about the absurdity of our standards : we arrived to the point in the "lie" where we identify this specific style as "the shape" of our perception, and yes : it become invisible to us, and is good design, but also it is a bit depressing.

My window manager and my emacs/vim/terminal configuration aren't what I call good design. They are highly readable but stratosphere-reaching levels of kitsch (yes ! I WANT to cosplay and feel as if I was writing code for aliens or to fight the matrix at work, and yes that's a bit cringe but at least I am honest with myself).

I don't wish the world and internet to be "more like that" and am ok with the actual state of design. Nevertheless I find that's a bit arbitrary and somewhat boring.


The best design is not invisible, but unobstructive. When you have a destination in mind, it must not prevent you from reaching your goal.

Sometimes, you can go the scenic route, where the journey itself is the goal, not the place it gets you to.


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