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Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective.

> we'd lose out on the marketplace cut (10% of all sales I think?); we didn't want people grinding the game to earn money from rare drops;

My naive understanding is that by having skins be worth tangible and significant value; this was the primary motivator for players to purchase keys to unbox cases, which was the dominant direct revenue generator for CS.

I would guess that the revenue generated from keys (and cases, from the market cut) eclipses the potential market cut revenue from limiting the value of items to the marketplace limit (now $2k I believe), as the consequence of that is significantly less demand in keys and skins as a whole.

Without the prospect of extremely expensive chase items, the $2.50 + ${case} slot machine pull loses its jackpot. With a knife being dropped once every 400~ unboxes, the EV of a knife would be $1000 + 400*${case}. Obviously the actual EV would be lower in practice, but the point I'm trying to understand is how the monetization model works if skins are any less expensive than they were.


> My naive understanding is that by having skins be worth tangible and significant value; this was the primary motivator for players to purchase keys to unbox cases, which was the dominant direct revenue generator for CS.

Yes. The Valve philosophy on the cosmetics marketplace (we called it "the economy") is that you distribute random rewards to players and they can trade and sell and discover the value of those goods for themselves. Obviously, this was done to make money for Valve but, in theory, it's also good for the players. It allows people who have things they don't want to sell them to people who want them. And all this buying and selling happens between Steam wallets (and there is no off-ramp) so at the end of the day, it's all just profit for Valve.

But above all we wanted people to play CS:GO because it was a fun game. We didn't want to turn it into some kind of grim pachinko parlor, with players grinding out matches just to get random loot box drops. So you have to balance the potentially real dollar random rewards so that they're a fun surprise but not economically attractive enough to become a job.


> players grinding out matches just to get random loot box drops

I mean... what you have is people operating rooms full of computers running automated bots to farm drops (and presumably accounts to sell later) [0].

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yS6_WDb6w


Right, but they didn’t want that to happen.

It’s just a weird side effect that’s surprisingly difficult to prevent - online games have had gold farmers for pretty much as long as there have been online games with gold.


Coffeezilla makes an interesting series of videos about casinos in the csgo community and also makes a video against Valve themselves.

Worth a watch imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eiDhuvM6Y


You can not want something to happen but still do so knowing the inevitable result.


I’ve run into idle bot accounts several times while playing and it’s infuriating. Mainly in the arms race mode. Players can leave and join that mode at any time. So the bots will constantly be joining and leaving. if the bots manage to become 50% of the game they will vote kick all the remaining players. I’ve had several in progress matches interrupted because a few of the actual players bailed and the bots managed to take over the lobby.


I'm curious to know the layoffs by game. It would be surprising if League of Legends retains all of its game design/balance team, and it'd also be surprising if Valorant lays off any employees.


valorant had layoffs, as did league. what makes you expect cuts on the league game design and balance teams? (not the same thing, btw)


> which has been reconstructed by several studies (by reputable institutions I should add)

Sources would be helpful.


(I'm not the person you replied to and talking in general)

Most likely they wouldn't. You can find sources to back up almost any claim. Without the context they're not actually all that useful.


The proof is in the results. When it'll be obvious climate change "action" (taxes) don't change anything the focus will switch to something like Inbound Asteroid Protection or similar.


> cryptocurrencies (which are instrumental to the right of privately transacting online

Blockchains are public ledgers - this is the opposite of privacy.


There are fully anonymous cryptocurrencies. Also, in a public ledger, an address is not directly associated to a person.


Not immediately, no, but there's no forward secrecy, so unless users take extensive steps to obfuscate their activities, as soon as they make one transaction with a counterparty who knows who they are (such as an exchange with KYC) they are at risk of de-anonymisation.


There are also Layer 2 technologies


There is irony in complaining about over-communication when it's in response to criticisms of under-communication.


Key word "spamming." It wasn't communication but another dry and information-free blob of text. Communication requires something to say.


It's worse than that, they're saying communication was not up to their standards without actually communicating anything we didn't already know.

At least explain why there was such a total communication blackout company wide. Even support staff weren't allowed to discus it. Why?


Well why are they writing a blog and posting the link on HN? We’re not directly your customers. Did you apologise individually to the customers you ignored? You don’t have to apologise to anyone here.


History has shown that newer releases don't equate to direct upgrades.


Not a fan of "this"-like comments, but I find your analogy very elegant in explaining the impact of money.

The concept of money mapping 1:1 to value/produced utility (note that I haven't defined what a unit of this is) is a difficult concept to grasp.

It's very common for people to trivialise money as a printed piece of paper and miss the higher level value as a currency that "benchmarks" the value of one's impact to another.

Society pedestalizes healthcare workers for their immediate, physical and observable impact to the lives of individuals; and it is understandably justified. However, this often raises questions to why nurses only make marginally above average salaries. Unfortunately the semantics of the supply-vs-demand economy is often lost here - any individual nurse is generally not difficult to replace should they leave (of course, depending on the market). On the other end of the spectrum, people making significantly above the market financial trading are commonly seen as negative-value producers when most do generate a significant amount of positive value, simply because it's hard to reason with a non-physical form of value. (I don't work in a field related to financial trading)

It's unsurprising why there's communities formed to demonise the concept of currency, trade and markets; and why some of them advance further and push for the breakdown of modern society.

While I don't mean to be pushing the message that "Capitalism is perfect and the utopia of reality" - I can't imagine alternative systems not involving a free market, that would achieve similar or better levels of quality of life and advancement in society (at least in current modern? times), while balancing around the imperfections of humans.


> people making significantly above the market financial trading are commonly seen as negative-value producers when most do generate a significant amount of positive value

They generate a significant amount of money - not value, money. They concentrate wealth in the hands of those who can afford to pay them to do it, a process which begets itself. That's why traders are commonly seen as negative-value producers by society as a whole - they contribute to decreased social equality.

Your argument here is circular - financial traders can only be said to be generating value if you assume that money and value are in some way equivalent. The former doesn't prove the latter.

As for nurses - if they're so easily replaced, why are so many rich societies dependent on immigrant health workers? And I'm sure you're not telling me that, if you were dying, you'd rather be attended by a stockbroker? Or could it be that "value" is a nebulous concept that is highly situational and varies from person to person?

Capitalism is very successful in certain arenas but it doesn't universally improve quality of life, and if you want an example then look no further than healthcare, and consider the difference between the US and any country with a nationalised healthcare system.


It's the age where the majority of legal systems draw the line on considering a teenager to be an adult, so it isn't unreasonable.


This is the age where the last legal distinction is removed, there tend to be a lot of age related regulations that change over the years before that.

18 is pretty much only reasonable when it directly aligns with a legal requirement. Otherwise it is not the most reasonable, but the most lazy choice.


I think the "Facebook bad" horse has been beaten down to Earth's inner core.

Yes, Facebook has its downsides just as any other social platform would. Yes, you can live without it. But I don't believe that the negatives Facebook has enabled comes close to the utility it has provided to society.


It is "bad" only because the right people cannot control it as easily, it was "good" 8-9 years ago when the good people (or the countries that they controlled/lead at the time) were using Facebook against "bad" people (i.e. Arab Spring).


If by utility, you mean enriching the pockets of their shareholders, then sure. But that is not a net positive for society. People got along in the world before Facebook just fine.


What utility is that exactly? I don't think I've benefited from having a Facebook account at all, though I hardly use it.


What utility is there?


The only utility Facebook gives me is Messenger, which I have to use because several family members use it. The only utility it offers over other messaging platforms is slightly better support for media and GIFs (maybe?) And network effects. I would really prefer they join me where I am, on Discord, which is where my local friends, neighbors and online friends go to exchange messages. (It doesn't support video sharing as well/easily as Messenger.)


I stopped using Messenger once they started with the ads. Signal is a great replacement. The chat heads on Android were cool but I don’t find I really miss them.


I'm glad you were able to move all of your contacts to Signal! That hasn't worked for me, though many people have joined me on Discord. My siblings are sort of straddling between Messenger and Discord, just like me, but they tend to be more responsive on Messenger. Perhaps they only use Discord to appease me.

I've never enjoyed the chat heads and always disabled them right away. I don't notice ads in Messenger, though I mostly use it from a desktop browser with uBlock Origin enabled!

But as a I said, I only use Messenger because I have to, as it is the primary messaging service family members tend to stick to.


I'm sure it's a comfort to the victims of the Rohingya genocide that your mother has a platform to share photos of her grandkids.


You seem to suggest that Facebook itself is to blame for that, and not the people interacting on it.

Previously, mass manipulation was only available to really rich and powerful, or states versed in it. Now it's available to much smaller and less sophisticated actors.

But I don't think that's an issue, the issue is that manipulation is acceptable at all, and how we can draw the new, better line there? (Looking at you too, Marketing)


In that case, why not blame Hillary Clinton for normalizing relations with the genocidal state, so that American corporations could have access to a new market?


There's a couple of hidden treasures in the form of satire accounts, most notably Chad Profitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-profitz-977536159/

I aggressively block LinkedIn users that post garbage, as well as connections who engage with these posts.

I find the only point of the LinkedIn feed is to serve as white-noise for your brain when you need to recharge.


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