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Until EU forbids you to like they plan in 2027.

Not 100% but mostly, yes.

> Yes, we do need the data centers, but people have a saying too.

Think of the airports. Do we need them? Absolutely. Do people have a say? Yes they do. And that's the problem: they will always say sure but not in my backyard. Obviously no one wants an airport nearby, that's understandable. So in the end expanding an airport (and thus economy) becomes basically impossible.

But in case of airport there is at least a clear case to make. DataCenters? Not so much. Laymen are unable to make an educated decisions here hence they will always vote no.


Even in case of evaporative cooling the water is not used. It's returned to the environment.

While technically true, if your datacenter is in Phoenix and you just consumed a few acre feet of water to raise the relative humidity by 0.000001%, for all intents and purposes that was a massive waste of water.

So you say that I can burn a bit of ICE's GPUs by typing words suggesting I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers I plan to hire undocumented workers

Right?



Oh, ECHELON. Haven't heard this term for a while.

It’s the tax you paid, it’s just being allocated more towards GPUs.

You pay tax direct as us residents, or as tariff if you are in rest of world.


> You pay tax direct as us residents, or as tariff if you are in rest of world.

Tariffs on goods coming into the US are paid by US residents. (Just had to pay customs to clear a shipment from the UK - I had to pay the tariffs, not the seller.)


This.

There is no other reason to require KYC for a server-side text transformation tool, no matter how impressive it is.


The other reason could be the copyright cases they are fighting in court. OAI was ordered to keep all records, including private. Not sure if it was lifted already.

And another could be EU requirements for age verification. AI can produce adult content.

There are may be other reasons, like to prevent using OAI models' output to train competing models.


> AI can produce adult content.

They should realize that anything can produce adult content. Anything.


No other reason? What about simply fraud protection. The same reason they switched new accounts to be where you have to pay to buy credits first instead of paying at the end of the month. There is a ton of fraud in this industry

No worries. Their competitors do not require KYC.

They all require paying for credits up front which is also an anti-fraud measure though which was my entire point ;)

Credit upfront as antifraud: perfectly fine. KYC: absolutely not.

And if you ran a company at OpenAI's scale then you can make that decision, but you don't

How much do you know about me?

Anyways, competitors do not require KYC for text transformation services, and that's how it should be.


You call OpenAI a "text transformation service" so clearly you are incompetent and your website backs that up

Thank you for your valuable feedback!

Funny though their KYC process is not done via WorldCoin. Obviously because WorldCoin KYC is useless for authorities.

Indeed. I have opened the playground and it doesn't let me choose GPT-5. Obviously I will not be KYCing myself.

But that's okay. There are plenty of other models. Perhaps not bleeding edge great, but great nevertheless.


As far as I understand, many users are better off with GPT-4o anyway. Amusing to be charging premiums for an objectively bad upgrade, but I guess that's the kind of bullshit economics that hype cycles create.

How are users better off with 4o? I thought the point of 5 was that delivered better results for cheaper in less tokens.

I meant competitors

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I meant competitors.

> It is a culture of change and the latest and greatest

Good luck achieving anything of long-term value this way.


I have been an Ubuntu user since inception (and Linux user since kernel 1.2.3).

This summer I have migrated all our production and development servers to Debian. Because absolutely and sincerely fuck rust coreutils, sudo-rs, systemd-* and the other virtue signaling projects.


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