Can GitHub change their API response rate? Can they increase it? If they do, they’ll break my code ‘cause it expects to receive responses at least after 1200ms. Any faster than that and I get race conditions. I selected the 1200ms number by measuring response rates.

No, you would call me a moron and tell me to go pound sand.

Weird systems were never supported to begin with.

Not surprising. Take any conference and look at the schedule of some CEO or other “socialite” attending said conference. They’re not in the building, they’re running around town attending meetings. At JPMHC everyone is a “socialite”

At no point in history has humanity ever cut back on spending after some constraint got alleviated. Exact opposite, we always ramp spending up to chase new possibilities.

If A.I maximalism gospel was true we would see companies raising absurd seed and A rounds in record numbers. Which is exactly what we’re seeing

How many lives would AI have to save for you to say the energy cost is worth it?

I see no point in making this a numbers game. (Like, I was supposed to say "five" or something?)

Let's make it more of a category thing: when AI shows itself responsible for a new category of life-saving technique, like a cure for cancer or Alzheimer's, then I'd have to reconsider.

(And even then, it will be balanced against rising sea levels, extinctions, and other energy use effects.)

> when AI shows itself responsible for a new category of life-saving technique, like a cure for cancer or Alzheimer's, then I'd have to reconsider.

We’re way past that

Please, go into detail!

Here’s a good exercise;

Search through github for commits authored by .edu, .ac.uk etc emails and spend a few days understanding what they’ve been building the past few years. Once you’ve picked your jaw off the floor, take another 10 minutes to appreciate that this is just the public code by some researchers, and is crumbs compared to what is being built right now behind closed doors.

Tenured professors are abdicating their teaching positions to work on startups. Commercial labs are pouring billions into tech that was unreachable just a few years ago. Academic labs are downscaling their interns 20x. Historically hermit companies are opening their doors to build partnerships in industry.

The scale of what is happening is difficult to comprehend.

AlphaFold?

How many lives have been saved by AI? How many lives have been lost because of it?

Not what I’m asking. But idk, do you have stats? I wouldn’t say _lost_ as a ding against, _ruined_ or _negatively impacted_ is sufficiently a problem

And they’re right every single time. It’s only getting crazier and crazier. Look around. Pay attention.

> You see a lot of accomplished, prominent developers claiming they are more productive without it.

Demonstrably impossible if you’re actually properly trying to use them in non-esoteric domains. I challenge anyone to very honestly showcase a non-esoteric domain in which opus4.5 does not make even the most experienced developer more productive.

How would one set this sort of test up? I surely have example domains where LLMs routinely do poorly (for example, custom bazel rules and workspaces), but what would constitute a "showcase" here?

To change my mind I’ll be satisfied with a thorough description of the domain and ideally a theory on why it does poorly in that domain. But we’re not talking LLMs here, we’re talking opus4.5 specifically.

A theory besides... not enough training data? Is it even possible to formulate a coherent theory about this? I'm talking about customizing a widely-used build system, not exactly state-of-the-art cryptography. What could I possibly say that you wouldn't counter with "skill issue" (which goes back to the author's point)?

If you say it's demonstrably impossible that someone can't be made more productive with opus4.5, then it should probably be up to you to demonstrate impossibility.

How could it possibly be a skill issue? Have you tried in earnest to use opus4.5 for the problem you’re trying to solve?

Not enough training data couldn’t be the problem - Bazel is not an esoteric domain. Unless you’re trying to do something esoteric.

But I just want to backup my important files to the cloud

I am a car enthusiast so don't think I'm off the deep end here, but I would definitely argue that people love their cars as a tool to work in the society we built with cars in mind. Most people aren't car enthusiasts, they're just driving to get to work, and if they could get to work for a $1 fare in 20 minutes on a clean, safe train they would probably do that instead.

I am this person. I love the convenience of a car. I hate car ownership.

Right and I assume we will have BO police at the gates to these trains?

People love their cars not because they’re enthusiasts

I guess that's one reason to not use public transport, but it seems many cities overcome that pretty readily.

Perhaps it depends on how smelly your society is.

Anyway I think we are in agreement, given a good system and a good society trains become quite attractive, otherwise cars are more preferred.

That seems like a somewhat ridiculous objection. Should everybody start owning their own private planes to avoid people with BO at airplanes?

No, but if they could, they would. That’s what’s being debated here. Whether people would, not should.

Of course they wouldn't, owning and operating a plane is -incredibly- inconvenient. That's what we are discussing, tradeoffs of convenience and discomfort, you can't just completely ignore one reality to criticise the other (admiting some hypocrisy here since that ideal train system mentioned earlier only exists in a few cities).

Is this some culture or region or climate related thing? I’ve never heard of BO brought up as a reason to avoid public transport or flying commercial in northern parts of Europe. Nor have I experienced any olfactory disturbance, apart from the occasional young man or woman going a tad overboard with perfume on the weekends.

Should we restructure society so that having a private airplane is easier and cheaper, but if you don't have one you'll have serious trouble in daily life?

No

I love my car. And yet I really want to see all the cars eradicated from existence. At least from the public space.

No, people hate being trapped without a car in an environment built exclusively to serve cars. Our love of cars is largely just downstream of negative emotions like FOMO or indignation caused by the inability to imagine traveling by any other mode (because on most cases that's not even remotely feasible anymore).

Oh how far eastdakota has fallen. What is it with billionaires losing their damn mind the wealthier they become?

And they all seem to love LOTR while acting just like Gollum.

There was a gas leak on the island.

Then don’t use AWS keys