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Interesting read, but I feel like they should have also benchmarked using COPY with Postgres. This should be far faster than a bulk insert, and it’s more in line with what they are benchmarking.

The omission feels… odd.


To be honest, I just didn't think of it. But thanks for the suggestion, we'll give it a go!


I maintain a project that publishes a SQLite file containing all package metadata, if you don’t want to use BigQuery or the API to do this kind of analysis

https://github.com/pypi-data/pypi-json-data


What giant hoops? I’m interested in reading more


My very basic understanding is:

They wanted android developers that used google play services to basically be able to submit the same app to the amazon/fire store (without major revisions), so they reverse engineered the framework used by Google for api/hooks between the apps/apks and the "play-services"/OS levels.

Sort of spoofed the environment to prioritize compatibility in order to make it as easy as possible to grow the Amazon app store.

People don't realize that despite Android being nominally 'Open Source', the closed source Google layer on most phones makes it very difficult to exclude Google entirely from the picture and have a user friendly phone environment (both end-user and app-developer/playstore-user).

Basically only Amazon and China had resources to counter it directly with Android, or you could drop that layer and go the less user friendly route of st like AOSP 'pure' phones.


Christoph Hellwig seems fun to interact with. He drive-by posts the same, repeated points and seemingly refuses to engage with any replies.


Please don't cross into personal attack in HN threads.

I'm not saying it's never accurate*, it's just that, if you evaluate them through the site guidelines, the cost/benefit is negative.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

* (not a comment on this or any person)


AFAICT his only response in that thread:

> Right now the rules is Linus can force you whatever he wants (it's his project obviously) and I think he needs to spell that out including the expectations for contributors very clearly.

>

> For myself I can and do deal with Rust itself fine, I'd love bringing the kernel into a more memory safe world, but dealing with an uncontrolled multi-language codebase is a pretty sure way to get me to spend my spare time on something else. I've heard a few other folks mumble something similar, but not everyone is quite as outspoken.

He gets villianized and I don't think all his interactions were great, but this seems pretty reasonable and more or less in line with what other people were asking for (clearer direction from Linus).

That said, I don't know, maybe Linus's position was already clear...


Maybe, but "spreads like cancer" is not part of a well-reasoned technical discussion, but of an emotional one.


In many languages, like Italian which I am a native speaker of, to "spread like a cancer" doesn't have the negative subtext of the English idiom. It just means it spreads, wildly, uncontrollable. In English it gets muddled with the very negative idiom of "being a cancer", i.e. being very bad if not fatal.


I think it's because in English-speaking places (I'll say "The US and some rounding errors" to be explicit) the fact is that for a long time, cancer was a death sentence. This led to anything that is hard to kill as being called cancerous and the avoidance of such things is important (yes, this is where you chuckle and mime smoking a cigarette. There's still a population of the US that believes "smoking causes cancer" is a conspiracy by Big Pharma to push more cancer treatments or some bullshit like that.)

Calling something "cancerous" is to say it was an incurable disease that unless stamped out with some amount of precision will continue to cause rot and decay. Be it correct or not, saying "The cancer that is killing HN" is pointing a finger at a problem and scapegoating all the other problems onto it.


Like how "going viral" is not really the negative connotation that one might expect?


You're confusing language that causes a strong emotional response within you, with language that was written by a person experiencing strong emotion.

It's colourful language for sure, but gimme a break.


Building part of an "emotional discussion" doesn't require the author to be experiencing particularly strong emotions as they write it.

Not that you have evidence of the author's state of mind?

I don't think the confusion you describe is happening.


That's a good distinction, and it pretty much captures the exchange. Both sides felt quite strongly; Helwig used strong words. But that doesn't mean either side was unreasonable, despite some of us commenters being discomforted.


> Crash a wedding. You are not a nuisance; you are the celebrity guest!

Urgh. Really?


It sends the output of “git ls-files” to the telemetry server?!?! Who thought this is appropriate.


No even worse, it sends the actual file content to the server.

Linked in the post:

https://github.com/cachix/devenv/blob/6c987a8795eedea872afe4...


> In the US they’re too high for what we get: essentially nothing

He wrote, using his 5g phone connection and the internet from the safety of his home. Outside, a car sits silently in the driveway.


Yes, I am very safe in my little cage where I take my antibiotics and still kiss with saliva. A cage is still a cage.


And it’s an entirely different point to the initial one.


Are you speaking to me or everyone BUT me?

Because I’ll be both direct and honest: this is the type of bullshit that causes me to withdraw from interacting with the bulk of humanity.

Mock me all you like.


I understand you, no one should live his life living in a cage, even if it's a metaphorical one. Some people are shit posting because of their reasons, this shouldn't change anything on your side IMHO. Easier said than done, I know.

Instead of mocking you, let me send you love and respect. I hope you enjoy your life and find your freedom in your own way, and have fun doing so, preferably with other people.


the point is that all the things that commenter listed are enabled by the taxes we pay - it's the price we pay for living in a civilized society. Saying that they don't directly pay it misses the forest for the trees: we decide to pay taxes for things in a system that overall produces these outcomes, treating them separately is to split parts of a coevolved system


Civilized society doesn’t require a layer of working poor at the bottom to function. That is what I am a part of: the great mass of unfulfilled workers with no choices, no chance for advancement.

I’m a blue collar worker right on the edge of high end white collar work. I see on a daily basis that which I can never possess.

The system produces these outcomes because that is the desired design goal of the system. If this is “civilization” I want no part of it. But then, we don’t get that choice anymore do we? Where could I go on Earth to escape my fate? Because all I see is my own death is the only escape


usually you can go to some rural part of the country and grow your own food and no one will really care. You'll have to pay your BLM grazing fees and maybe some taxes but that honestly isn't that much compared to even solely military protection


> this is the type of bullshit that causes me to withdraw from interacting with the bulk of humanity.

Nobody is mocking you, however your taxes allow you to do this without having to live in a shack in the woods and forage for food.


How do I prevent my statically linked plugins from having any filesystem access, or a bug messing with memory it doesn’t control once it’s loaded?


OS IPC and security configuration, no need to add a WebAssembly runtime and compiler toolchain.


So: slow, hard, complex and highly OS specific vs simple and secure.

Right.


Because WASM tooling is so much better, thank goodness for emscripten.


Don’t argue in bad faith, especially if you’ve got nothing substantial to add to the discussion or any real points to make.


It’s actually very useful to have context managers outlive their with blocks. They are not only used for files:

One example would be a timing context manager:

   with Timer() as t:
      …
   print(t.runtime)
Another example is mocks, where you want to inspect how many times a mock was called and with what arguments, after the mock context manager has finished.


I know it makes sense in the "scope-less" python philosopy but it still feels weird for me as a scope (ab)user in C++ and has caused me one headache or two in the past


I’ve been using it since they where in beta and I’ve never experienced this.

I had one issue with closing an investment account, and they reached out to me to let me know there was an issue and proactively rebated me.


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