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Periodic reminder that there are people seeking to derail discussions critical of AI and divert attention away from the actual substance of these issues.

This is just like how Windows is turning into an "agentic OS."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45920239

I wonder how many people installed VS Code wanting a text editor, only for it to become something else.

The same page from last year:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240814025843/https://code.visu...


This is what Republicans do. It is their job.


It’s exactly the platform they ran on. You’re right they’re just following through.


Defense in depth only works if you put up meaningful security measures. As numerous people including GP has pointed out, you still retain the means to log user traffic. That's not meaningfully secure than the alternatives.

More importantly, trusting random strangers is much better than trusting a known hostile actor. During the Freenode fiasco, you have repeatedly demonstrated yourself to be untrustworthy and vengeful. Everyone saw your petty revenges against people who dared voice the slightest of criticisms. Why on earth should anyone trust that you'll uphold your customer's privacy no matter what?


I think you should look into the narrative before parroting falsehoods. Further, I’m not sure what came off as a “revenge” in my response unless facts are being interpreted as such.


The whole community fled from Freenode as a direct consequence of your actions. You aren't convincing anyone with your "debunkings," dear masterdebater.


I find websites punishing users over their choice of browsers to be questionable. But if they're going down that route, why on earth allow Chrome, a mass surveillance product made by the richest ad company in the world? The level of harm being done is so much bigger with Chrome, both in terms of scale and the effect it has on society. It's not even comparable.


I wish the authors won't be demotivated by this if they ever see this top comment. Borg is such an invaluable project done by volunteers. They don't deserve the blatant abuse demonstrated by the OP. Even more so when the reasons are either the OP ignoring a well written documentation or some unreasonable demand to degrade the security of the software by prominently showing how to disable encryption for a remote backup system. The notion that having the setup command generate encryption keys is so "elitist" that it warrants abusive insults is ... beyond me.


I believe some of the Chromium folks are partly responsible for this. Though it's probably not a planned "campaign" of any sort, I've seen some prominent figures constantly direct hatred toward other browser vendors online, and countless webdevs piling on. I'm not posting links because many of them are highly toxic, but browser developers on the receiving end has expressed their frustrations more than once.


According to one of the new ops for the now unofficial Freenode #fsf channel, #reactos may have stayed. If true, the count would be four.

> @freenode_CrystalMath:matrix.org

> and i'm a reactos developer, though we're not on libera at all

> @freenode_CrystalMath:matrix.org

> we're only on freenode and mattermost


It's quite concerning that ailin-nemui, who made the prior commit migrating to Libera currently isn't listed as part of the irssi organization[1]. According to GitHub stats, this is the person behind most of the code in irssi[2].

[1]: https://github.com/orgs/irssi/people

[2]: https://github.com/irssi/irssi/graphs/contributors


Worth noting that it's quite common for people to not be publicly listed as part of Github organizations. The archive.org snapshot of the organization page from February [1] shows the same member count, so suspect that's the reason.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210224203331/https://github.co...


> Worth noting that it's quite common for people to not be publicly listed as part of Github organizations.

My bad, I didn't know that was a thing.


Quite clearly they had sanctioned commit access to irssi over such a long period of time, so I don't think there's anything untoward about that.

In all likelihood, they probably just had their commit access revoked, or are just hiding their membership as part of the organization.


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