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> Governments usually switch off the internet when they have a risk of being overthrown. Thats' why it's happening in Iran. They want to disrupt the co-ordination of a coup

You are, possibly innocently, carrying propaganda water for a repressive autocratic regime that has killed thousands of its own citizens in the past week alone.

IRI desposts, starting fro Ali Khamenei down to the rest of their ideological "brothers and sisters" in the regime and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (note no "Iran" in that name ..) are scared shitless that a Mussolini style future awaits them and their parasitical clans.

IRI has cut off internet and phone networks for days now because they know that before they can yet again reach "a deal" with the despicable Western elite who were instrumental in their rise to power (and staying there for all these years) need Media Cover from the audiances in the rest of the civilized world who would be exposed to numerous images and videos of bodies piled in streets and morgues, ARAB ISIS Style goons on pickup trucks with machine guns, and scenes of Iranian men and women of all shapes and ages loudly expressing their utter hatred of this EVIL REGIME from all corners of Iran, and they would not be able to "make a deal".

I strongly suggest, specially if you in anyway believe in any sort of Cosmic Judgment (Karmic or Abrahamic), to not stick your ignorant nose into the Iranian Revolution.

The people of Iran want to remove the yoke of this EVIL REGIME masqurading as God's Government on Earth. Let that outlandish and ludicrous pretention sink in before you get up to be a useful idiot for the Islamic Republic occupying Iran, ok?


My message was in no way intended to comment on the legitimacy of either the government of Iran or of its potential overthrow. There are circumstances in which the overthrow of a government is justified.

You may be passionately in favour of one side, but hastily imputing motives to, and disparaging, people who you do not know, will not aid in convincing anyone of your claims; it merely undermines your credibility.


Bro, relax, this rhetoric and your claims are so extreme and not backed up by reality. Killed thousands? According to the "Human Rights Activists" in London? Or the ones in Washington? Because none of that has actually come from Iran, and the few videos that have come out show people hit by hunting rifles (aka, non-police weapons) or shot in the back by other "protestors". We know Mossad has armed the rioters, nobody in the "civilized world" with an IQ over 80 is falling for your propaganda anymore. Take a chill pill, and stop instigating causing everyone to hate the Iranian expats

dude literally just go search "Tehran hospital" on twitter, there's hundreds of videos and images of endless body bags, and multiple independent major media outlets all reporting casualties in the thousands, not just Iran International

The notoriously reliable source of (mis)information Twitter. I see lots of videos, including people talking about rioters, foreign-backed militias, and lots of inflammatory words, but no pictures or videos of thousands of bodies. I feel for the dead, especially those shot in the back to instigate foreign intervention, they didn't deserve to be harmed. But I lay the blame on their murderers and their backers and funders.

i saw tons of body bag pictures and videos, and unless you want to tell me they're fake and only AI, then it seems you're not trying really hard to find them because you're pretty set in your opinion despite evidence to the contrary

Did you see thousands? Or dozens? I'm not saying there were 0, just that the scale and intensity of the GP's claim, and yours, is unjustified by the evidence.

I have made multiple photocopies of my US passport (naturalized) that I have put in my wallet, backpacks, etc.


That won’t help you if they decide that they don’t like you.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-citizen-arrested-by-ice_n_...


In another article, I read a US citizen being detained despite showing a copy in his phone: https://archive.is/0WXZR

Edit: actually I'm not sure if he got the chance to show the copy, that info seems ambiguous:

> The federal agents who detained Mubashir refused his repeated attempts to show them a copy of his passport on his phone or provide his name and date of birth to prove his citizenship, he said. Instead, they insisted he allow them to take a photo of him to make the verification, according to Mubashir.


You can get a card version of your passport that is the same size as your driver’s license. There’s no need to photocopy your actual passport book


Its all a moot point because if they want to arrest you, then it doesn't matter what you show them. They're going to arrest you anyway, and suffer no consequences for doing so.


“Giving up and dying” is a personal preference that we don’t all share.


It certainly wasn't a preference that I was advocating for. Odd that's what you saw in my comment.


TIL. Thanks, good to know.


I wouldn’t expect them to accept photocopies of a passport


I would hope that they have access to a tool to look up the passport by number and confirm that the details match the copy and the photo appears to look like the person.


They do, but it can and will be ignored, based on events to date. The goal is to create ambiguity to enable a power imbalance enabling working outside of the legal framework to accomplish target outcomes. It turns an objective boolean evaluation (“is_citizen”) into a subjective one (“is_preferred_and_compliant”).


You might even hope that such a system would be able to work off of their name and some other memorable, identifiable information like address, origin country, date of birth, and would display their papers with photo-identification available, but alas...

The goal isn't to be reasonable or helpful.


I think they should criminialize porn instead and leave the machines alone. Since that industry (conspiracy theories aside) value money above all else, massive fine and taxes on the owners of porn production is the way to go imo.


I mean, porn completely ruined my teenage years and it took me 8 years to get rid of my addiction. It warps your expectations of real-life relationships, it ruins marriages, it ruins both women and men, it's garbage poison and should be outlawed. So I would be in favor of such laws, but then again, I also know, it's not really about porn and more about the whole "we can't let the youth become radicalized by this Internet thing" stuff and just more censorship.


Porn is damaging at multiple levels, specially for young adults to say nothing of "children".

+Should be clear is that exposing children to porn or normalizing porn in no way promotes "healthy economies" either.


Mass surveillance is far more damaging. Also there are several porn block solutions on offer for parents to install on their children's devices. There is absolutely zero need for the government to be regulating mass surveillance on everyone to block porn for children. We are replacing the damage caused by porn on a small handful of people who are predisposed to get addicted and got exposed to it at a young age due to bad parenting, with damaging all of society with mass surveillance, which is not even guaranteed to stop kids from seeing porn.


sure but so is social media and ultra processed food. Both with much greater impact, why not start there?


because porn is primarily a moral problem, the others are only mental and health problems. surely moral problems are way more serious, right?


Because no porn lobby?


Imagine society is able to tackle multiple problems all at once.. Seems like fiction for some..


But they don't fix multiple problems all at once. Most of the time they don't even fix one at a time. And often, as I think is the case here, they pretend they are fixing a problem when really they are doing something else. In this case its the usual 'save the children' wrapping on more rigid control and surveillance of peoples use of computers and the internet.


> But they don't fix multiple problems all at once.

No, they do, they do it the whole time. Those might not the problems you care about, and not all attempts might be successful, but each new or changed law/regulation is fixing something. And there are many new of them over the year.


Each new law/regulation is indeed intended to fix something, the problem is what? I'd love to have the optimism that its the problems that population are experiencing, but in most cases its the problems that the rich and powerful are experiencing. Like 'the internet is allowing people too much power to communicate with each other without state intervention', so they fix it with laws to remove that power. Or 'I am very extremely wealthy, but I want to be in more wealthy, and other people to be poorer so my great wealth has more relative power', so they pass laws to cut social programs to fund high income tax cuts. And so on,..


You seem to have a concerningly narrow view on society and it's processes, to the point where it might be harmful. Maybe start fixing this first, before you complain about something you might not understand well enough?


I could say this exact comment back to you with implication that your view is naively optimistic, whereas at me its implication is I'm defeatistly pessimistic. Maybe the answer is that society needs both of us playing these parts.


society does not want to tackle any problems - especially when it comes to kids. you need continued social discourse to win elections so no one is actually interested in solving anything


[Citation needed]

Multiple studies have shown that porn, in and of itself, is not damaging. The phenomenon of "porn addiction" appears to come entirely from people who think they shouldn't be looking at porn for various (mostly religious) reasons still looking at it, and feeling shame.


Probably not dangerous for adults. But if you combine high-speed internet, unlimited mobile data - it's basically a debilitating affair for kids aged 8-18.

The BBC did a documentary about the knowledge of porn among kids, and how 16-year-olds go to the doctor's office saying they don't have erections...


Can you also provide a citation?


Sure, here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202207/...

> People who believe they have a porn addiction typically think their sexual behaviors are abnormal.

> In reality, however, their sexual behaviors tend to be similar to others'.

> Porn addiction typically involves a moral incongruence between sexual attitudes and sexual behaviors.

> By medicalizing problematic porn use, people can avoid taking personal responsibility for sexual behaviors.


Thank you, it's refreshing to see a medical take on an unquestioned thesis I see oft repeated even by intellectuals.


BBC Channel 4 did some documentary about porn and damage it does to young ones.


> I think, powers that be do not want to repeat -the mistake- they made with the interbwz.

But was it really.


Complete clickbait. There is not even a transitory appearance of a "how". tldr; table is rebuilt at some point prior to the great cycle's end. How the table is built and just how did the Maya make the calculations? Crickets.


The actual paper seems to have more information: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adt9039


https://old.reddit.com/r/NewIran/comments/1oy91ju/the_islami...

Here is a short video to tell you all you need to know about what sort of people are now running Iran, and just what they think of the average captive Iranian over whom they misrule, while you wait for the books.


Grok apparently has a sense of humor: "it's part of broader water management strategies including prayers and conservation".


Nothing baffling about it. Religion was used by a clerical class to marshall the lumpen masses with promises of free handouts in this world and paradise in the next. Their own thinking set (of the ruling clique) are bound by ideology - whether as matter of actual belief or means of governance - so they do not make any decisions based on national interest or reason. It is the ideology that does the 'thinking'.

(Sounds familiar? Warning bells for other locals, maybe? ..)

Most educated Iranians you know, btw, are (drum roll) in diaspora, for good reasons.


IRI's security goons operate freely in US. They are brazen about harrassing diaspora. We don't get to hear all the stories for obvious reasons but it happens a lot. Huge mistake is to assume you are safe in US and discussing the mafia regime openly on social media. They actually will show up at your door.


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