So a very non-uniform culture where you haven't seen the blatant sexism personally and the corporate policy of ignoring complaints against high performers (i.e. the CTO who should have been fired a long time ago for being complicit in other scandals) but somehow you do believe Susan Fowler.. how exactly are you intent on holding management accountable? Should everyone involved be let go, including the CTO and CEO? Do you really believe stuff like this bypasses them?

> the corporate policy of ignoring complaints against high performers

I have seen someone let go for misbehavior in spite of an assertion (at the time) that they were a very high performer. This was not uniformly the policy, and it's not clear to me it was ever actual policy. Susan reports that she was told by other parties that this was the reason - but it is possible she was informed incorrectly.

> the CTO who should have been fired a long time ago for being complicit in other scandals

Could you clarify? I have no idea what you're referring to, and "Thuan Pham scandal" doesn't turn up anything that looks relevant for me in Google.

I have tremendous respect for Thuan. With regards to this particular issue, it's clear he could have done better. At least, he missed a chance to fix this. We'll see what a more thorough examination reveals.

> but somehow you do believe Susan Fowler

I believe Susan Fowler honestly reported her experiences. I believe Susan Fowler because disbelieving her misses a chance to fix things. And I believe Susan Fowler because I don't see her having anything to gain - and plenty to lose - in offering us that chance. I appreciate her bravery.

> how exactly are you intent on holding management accountable?

I am intent on paying attention to the process, looking for honesty and integrity and meaningful change in response, and being vocal where it is lacking. Employees are asking - and Travis is answering - tough questions at the weekly staff meeting. If you have constructive suggestions, I welcome them.

> Should everyone involved be let go, including the CTO and CEO? Do you really believe stuff like this bypasses them?

Some kinds of involvement clearly deserve termination, but at this point we're still learning about what went on. There are possible answers that would have them out or me quitting in protest - and there are possible answers that wouldn't.

yeah the fowler thing wasn't really a factor for me. but i talked to some interns there this summer and they said the employees were expected to work until 10pm at least. I also was told that the pay is subpar and they expect you to get paid mostly in stocks.

> but i talked to some interns there this summer and they said the employees were expected to work until 10pm at least.

I don't know of any team where that's true. My team is usually out of the office by 6, often earlier. I sometimes have trouble leaving work at the office, but a big part of that is that I'm excited about my project - others do better on that count.

> I also was told that the pay is subpar and they expect you to get paid mostly in stocks.

I might be able to do better elsewhere if I were better at selling myself, but moving to Uber was a step up for me in cash before considering equity.

i guess it's anecdotal evidence against other anecdotal evidence, but i've heard that thing about the hours many times. i even went to the intern open house this summer and the employees admitted it themselves.

That's really surprising - especially so recently. Do you know which teams?

And this was presented as a typical day, not a rare "everything is on fire, all hands on deck" thing?

there was a table from every engineering org. i think there was like people from the security, platform engineering, mobile, and one other org.

I don't want to rat out the two people who told me since they are easily trackable but i heard it from two different teams. I also heard it from the intelligent spend team.

This wasn't just from Uber people either. I honestly really wanted to work at Uber and told my friend at Square and he told me he heard the work environment was "toxic". I also told my mentor at my internship that i thought Uber was cool and he said his friend worked there and had insane hours. Finally, my roommates cousin started working at Uber a year ago and has echoed the previous statements.

Once again, this is all anecdotal but it's hard to ignore the signs when I've had them from so many sources. I sincerely do believe in Uber's mission and have wanted to work there for years so i'm not trying to be biased at all.

edit: And these toxic environment comments were this summer.

Interesting. Well, for what it's worth, the management chain in the data org definitely seems to think team health is a priority.