Tab ordering is messed up. Tab scrolling is bugged. Everything from before requires more taps than before. Pages randomly render blank. Normal and private mode gets stuck and next intent tab is opened on whatever mode was explicitly opened before.

I would count the bullshit extension whitelist as the single biggest regression. But it is not new, so its not counted as such anymore?

The worst part, I will still be using Firefox because of my principles. Mozilla knows that userbase like me isn't leaving, and those unlike me aren't staying. It doesn't matter how big of a screwup they cause next time. The writing is already on the wall.

They made simple workflows more complicated, removed features and move UI elements around for no apparent reason.

Weirdest thing is how they moved the address bar to the bottom of the screen. You can put it back to the top of the screen but it's like - why?

There was a useful list of most frequently visited sites on the homepage, which they've decided to remove.

Opening a new tab or a favourite now requires at least two taps (one on top of the screen, and the second at the bottom), or one long press, while it required only one tap before.

With their experience in software development, Mozilla should now that users mostly hate changes, although we can be fine with it when there are improvements too. But in this case, there's no improvements as far as I could see, just random changes to the UI, a few things worse, a few things different for no reason, but nothing better.

Overall it gives very little confidence in what they're doing. It seems there's no leadership or overall vision at Mozilla, just random teams making random changes just for fun.

> Weirdest thing is how they moved the address bar to the bottom of the screen. You can put it back to the top of the screen but it's like - why?

As someone with a larger phone, this has made things 100x easier. Previously, the address bar was out of reach with one hand.

Personally, I'm really happy with all of the changes.

> Weirdest thing is how they moved the address bar to the bottom of the screen. You can put it back to the top of the screen but it's like - why?

One hand operation / large screen sizes?

UI is significantly changed for the worse - things like tab handling (tabs go to the top of the list which may be hidden from view), swipe controls (close tab requires some weird "must swipe across 40% of the screen" motion to be recognised) and graphical issues have all suffered badly. It's not just a case of getting used to the new design, usability is an afterthought.

But yeah, the ability to use extensions on mobile was the key feature for me switching to firefox. Now I would just like to find a non-sucky-non-chromium browser.

> Apart from extensions requiring whitelisting, how is it worse than the old mobile FF?

This is the most important point by far. First-class add-on support was the one differentiating feature that Firefox for Android had over every other browser on the platform. There are a handful of other browsers with add-ons on Android, like Kiwi, but they aren't nearly as seamless as Firefox was.

I'm using Fennec to write this comment because of Refined HN, I just turned off auto-updates. Not going to switch (at least for now) and I love Firefox but who knows where we'll be in a year? If we're in the same spot then I'll have to switch to Kiwi for these use cases.

I have Nightly installed and it's faster - whitelisted uBlock Origin alone solves a lot of problems in addition to GeckoView's massive speed improvements - but it doesn't fit every use case, so I have to keep Fennec installed.

The devs seem obstinate about ever allowing non-whitelisted add-ons outside of Nightly, which is... odd, it's the one feature they have over the competition. They seem similarly obstinate regarding about:config on stable.

There are other grievances (I actually disagree with the detractors on the default position of the address bar - it's far easier to use on tall devices) but this is the one thing that can't be found elsewhere, and it's gone now.

To reiterate, this feedback comes from a position of love, not hate, and I think most other people here feel the same. The devs are getting a lot of heat on places like reddit though, and the Play Store reviews for another. My limited understanding is that Fennec had to go eventually.

Bookmarks and top sites are only visible when opening a new tab, not when placing focus in the URL bar. If I want to go to a new site I have to either type the address, or open a new tab leading to a lot of old unused tabs that need to be cleaned up.

This made me install Fennec from F-droid.

I've had many bugs since the URL bat went to the bottom -- it crashes on some websites and often has multi-second hangs. I had to go back to chrome (I will try it again in a month, and hope it has improved, as I prefer Firefox).

No tab queuing means I can't open a bunch of tabs from another app without constantly having to switch back and forth (Open link in another app -> Auto-opens firefox with that tab -> switch back to origin app).

My tabs change order.

A huge annoyance for me personally: stored passwords are no longer applied to HTTP basic auth.

That's a personal preference, but I prefer the way the tabs were shown in the older version, I could see more at the same time and reorganize them