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Giving birth is violent, we should push for in-vitro birth as soon as possible

The only way to make sure we can safely reproduce during space travel / planet missions



With modern medicine giving birth is very safe. I'm not sure if it's with what happened with Roe V Wade or something else but I've seen an uptick of people who seem to believe that a woman giving birth in a 1st world country in 2022 is basically rolling the dice with their life. Women do still die, but it's extremely rare now.


I thought nothing about childbirth until my wife discovered she had some issues getting pregnant, and that started us down a deep dark rabbit hole of finding out more.

Along the way we also found out many of her friends and my friends’ wives also had serious issues getting pregnant, or had developed serious issues while pregnant or giving birth.

Now both of us are scared to have a child.


I think you might want to expand your concerns beyond death. I don’t know a woman who doesn’t hand a first or second hand account (I.e. they directly experienced or directly know someone who has experienced) significant up to life threatening health complications during or shortly after pregnancy.

Additionally it’s known that pregnancy permanently alters the bones and makes them more fragile.


Bwaha. I take it you’ve never assisted in a birth?

It’s far from safe.

With good medical care and a competent team of specialists nearby, it’s rare for a mother to die during it now.

Those two are not the same thing, at all.


C-sections and monitoring as well as modern medicine.


I think it's riskier to depend on external technology for child production. Not just at the first level (the "womb" part, the monitors, the process controllers), but at the second level, for the inevitable variety of complex consumables (media, fluids, hormones) which would be required, each of which will require their own supply chains and production processes.

Complex dependencies as of today tend not have a unit of production smaller than a factory, not just for assembly lines and such, but also because smaller entities cannot ensure the supply of a team of trained people who can continuously hold on to the knowledge required to keep the process going.

I guess it all depends how far down the "tech tree" you're imagining.

When you pack down a supply chain in the absolutely most advanced and robust way possible, IMHO it starts to look a lot like the biological wombs, eggs and seeds we already have.


No thanks.


if you don't experiment; you are at the mercy of mother nature

if you don't experiment; you let your enemies master the bio-science including stem-cell engineering

being able to create babies that are cancer immune, allergy immune, virus immune with an enhanced brain including vision with ultrasounds detection capabilities

if you don't experiment; you'll end up being an Ape that shit itself and need to wipe the poop with toilet paper, while your enemies will become ascended humans

sounds funny, but has lot of meaning


This sci-fi story is not as fun as you think.


"you want to go to the moon? HERESY, BURN HIM! WITCH!"


I don't really. There's no air up there, and nothing but rocks.

But you be my guest.


i know we live in a selfish society, but did you know the earth and the sun are not immortal?


I wish they were making another season of Raised by Wolves.

Things were workinf out great for those space kids.




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