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This was note elsewhere on HN but at least three of these - from MSNBC, Mashable, and CNN - aren't truly journalists. Yes, the produce a lot of editorial-ish content doesn't default them up to (what is supposed to be) journalism's higher standard.

The fact the NYT doesn't understand that make their employee suspect as well.

For the sake of discussion, this list is a solid lens for identifying journalistic activity, or the lack there of.

https://kottke.org/20/01/jim-lehrers-rules-of-journalism-1



"It doesn't matter that Elon Musk is silencing his critics on his absolute-free-speech platform, these aren't /real/ journalists."

Please. I didn't realize all of Musk's fans had gone to j-school and are the arbiters of "journalism's higher standard."


Let's try to stay on topic, please.

I said nothing about Musk. See?

I'm pointing out the use of lies and hyperbole. Ironic, that they are, isn't it? And that you'll defend them.

Yeah, we can discuss the hypocrisy that is Musk. But that has nothing to do with calling these clowns journalists.


Except you're attempting to legitimize the decision by calling journalists "clowns," as if you're the gatekeeper of "real" journalism.

People making these sorts of excuses are usually the ones who are most vocal about the importance of free speech. Ironic, isn't it?


Me? Gatekeeper? Nah. That's something real jouralists do / have already done.

https://kottke.org/20/01/jim-lehrers-rules-of-journalism-1

But if you want to side with MSNBC, CNN and Mashable, go ahead. You're on the wrong side of the line. Orwellian is not a good look, no matter how normalized it might be.


I'm siding with not banning journalists on an absolute free speech platform.

> Orwellian

Ok bud.




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