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We're literally in a thread about rural America being unable to keep basic necessities like hospitals open, but if someone poops on the sidewalk it's a failed state? Very cool, reasonable definition.


If you have masses of people living in tents on the street and open air drug markets.. people shooting drugs in the street. That is lawlessness.

Even many third world locales don't have those issues.

So yes it is a reasonable definition.




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