I don’t know what to believe much these days. So instead, I look to see at what actions are being taken instead of endlessly reading news and forums for consensus.
And what I see is Europe doesn’t seem to care much if Ukraine falls. The United States, has been supporting Ukraine far more up to this point, and they are not the ones facing the prospect of having Russia in their backyard breathing down their back. So if Europe doesn’t give a fuck, maybe it really means the fall of Ukraine ultimately doesn’t mean much to anyone except the Ukrainian people. The world will move on. This helps keep me calm and prevents me from stressing over most world affairs.
And another thing I wonder is what exactly is so bad about Russia anyways? Their leader sucks, but so does ours, and don’t people of both nations just want a good life at the end of the day? How different are they really from us? When I see TikTok interviews of everyday Russians in the streets, they are just like us, similar beliefs about their own country and what is wrong with the world. I understand less and less the source of our conflict.
Let me help you out: one country invading the other, destroying homes and lives. But that should not concern you much as apparently it is not you who is under attack.
When Israel invaded Gaza, the initial causus belli was the Hamas-led attack on Israel and Israelis, including defenceless civillians at a music festival. There was strong worldwide agreement and support of Israel at that time.
Where Israel took that combat, and what emerged subsequently of Israel's flagrant ignoring of direct threat warnings and assessments from both its own intelligence services and those of foreign countries (notably Egypt) markedly damped down that initial support.
Self-defence is a legitimate grounds for combat and invasion under currently prevailing international norms and law. Disproportionate attacks, most especially on civilians and civil infrastructure not so much. I'll grant that the situation in Gaza is complicated by numerous factors, but not nearly so much in any plausible interpretation as Israel has made its case.
This isn't a case for either war as Israel transacted it or unilateral peace on Israel's part, but there's marked daylight between those positions.
Maybe if you had instead done some research you'd see that Europe has provided more military aid than the United States.
Also, relying on "TikTok interviews" ridiculously naive. You could just as well watch Russia Today and get the same amount of propaganda shoved down your throat.
if europe has provided more military aid than why do they need united states for this conflict? cant EU and ukraine just resolve this? why did Zelenskyy come to make a deal for the resources?
What influence? The US and EU isn't going to engage with Russia directly in battle. There's no influence to be peddled. Unless the EU and US have something Russian wants, no influence can be peddled.
The truth is, Europeans know that if Ukraine falls nothing will happen to Europeans. There is no existential threat. There has been no national mobilization of industry to support Ukraine's war efforts.
The entire western world over the last 3 years has left Ukraine with a 10-1 artillery disadvantage. It's just not a serious concern for people.
Because 1.2 + 1.1 means much greater rate of success and less deaths? If you would care about your country, why wouldn't you want as much support as you could get, even if you would have the upper hand?
Zelensky wanted security guarantees to further help to defend his country from murder and death.
Am in Europe (NL), people do care. I have Ukranian refugees living in my town, I helped them with computers and bicycles and what I could to help some kids be able to do their school works.
US number would've been smaller if Biden did not push a large package before leaving. I think EU should do more.
What is so bad about Russia to the US? Well, you can ask every American administration of the past 30 years, they all seemed to agree before. For some Russian doctrine introduction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Ok but in Russia do they say similar things about the US? And if so then is there some backlash from Russians who believe Putin shouldn’t be dealing with the US as a potential ally?
I would not be able to say. I work with Russians but they avoid any political discussion. The few who do say something are more aligned with western views.
The little I seen from news I take are part of a bubble but show the US being ridiculed by tv hosts and the such. The US is/was the face of NATO for Russia for a long time, that narrative can shift very fast tho.
And what I see is Europe doesn’t seem to care much if Ukraine falls. The United States, has been supporting Ukraine far more up to this point, and they are not the ones facing the prospect of having Russia in their backyard breathing down their back. So if Europe doesn’t give a fuck, maybe it really means the fall of Ukraine ultimately doesn’t mean much to anyone except the Ukrainian people. The world will move on. This helps keep me calm and prevents me from stressing over most world affairs.
And another thing I wonder is what exactly is so bad about Russia anyways? Their leader sucks, but so does ours, and don’t people of both nations just want a good life at the end of the day? How different are they really from us? When I see TikTok interviews of everyday Russians in the streets, they are just like us, similar beliefs about their own country and what is wrong with the world. I understand less and less the source of our conflict.