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I like Kagi and want them to succeed. But currently (according to LinkedIn) theres 26 employees. They are building search, LLM assistant wrappers, a browser and now news. Please don't overextend the same way Proton is currently doing.


I used to love Proton, but they focus too much on feature development instead of stability and fixing long-standing bugs. E.g. zooming has been broken for years in ProtonMail on iOS. Some emails won’t even render at all :(


Yup, i quit Proton (Mail) for the same reason. I had been using it for a long time… There are so many little bugs and annoyances, it’s frustrating to see new features being released all the time while obvious bugs and shortcomings are not fixed.

It was a very big relief going back to a normal email client.

I still support Proton (i pay for Proton VPN) and hope they will succeed in their mission.


FWIW, I have not had any issues with email rendering in the iOS app so YMMV. Have not noticed any zooming problems.


How is Proton over extending? All of their services are pretty great imo. I'm happy with them. Doesn't mean I am ever going to use their bitcoin wallet app thing, but if they want to build it, great, they know their customer base so it's probably not out of left field.


In the drive mobile app you cant even download a folder. There has been issues opened on it for almost a year now and since then they've opened two entirely new services and added many extra features.

When you're paying for something you expect the basics to be there and thats what annoys me about proton.


A similar one for Kagi: All other popular search engines have an alternative URL that enforces safesearch, allowing IT admins/parents to prevent safesearch being turned off at a DNS level (e.g. forcesafesearch.google.com, strict.bing.com). Kagi's had an open request for one for 3½ years[1] and it was recently downgraded in status away from Planned.

[1] https://kagifeedback.org/d/3285-safe-search-dns-locking-for-...


Buggy as hell. Proton Drive cost me a weekend and they lost me for life.


…They are also building email


I'm waiting until they announce their own smartphone OS before accepting they are following in the footsteps of Google.

I mean, it keeps bothering me that their search engine logo is a "g". Anything to position themselves as close to google.




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