This is how ridiculous things have gotten. HN has quite civilized discussions, and even here people are blaming Jews for Oct 7 and getting upvoted for it.
I wouldn't be surprised if in a few more decades there will be another Holocaust in the West.
They are literally on camera killing their "people", and they buried a ton of evidence to hide it. They also have documented execution of Hannibal Directive. This is all objectively documented. You don't have to launch into nebbish histrionics about literal facts.
