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>Can you point out when I shamed them?

Probably the part where someone who was not talking to you mentioned a product that some people use and you responded with a 200 word mini essay about your conscience and feelings about consumerism. Nobody asked you about your principles nor was the discussion even remotely related to that.

The thread about the widget that generates Instagram posts from websites is a bizarre place to share, unprompted, that you have lived in abject poverty but also somehow never worked a job that didn’t meet your rigorous ethical standards. Like, cool man. That’s super weird and most people that have lived in poverty haven’t had that experience, so the only thing you’re communicating is your moral superiority. Which again, is both weird by itself and weird in the thread about the thing that generates Instagram posts from a website.

Edit: To be clear, I am not insinuating that your post was meant to shame the person you responded to, I am flat-out stating that your post was obviously intended to shame the person you responded to. Any argument to the contrary could only consist of you demanding that other people read the words that you wrote and selectively assign different meanings to them until it makes you look good.



"I read the words you said in the worst possible way" is not the logical statement you want it to be

"also you are weird, like so weird, like look at how weird you are" is kinda just rude, seems really weird to reprimand someone for a fantasy you summoned


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It’s not bad faith to be direct. You asked where you were shaming and I pointed out where others drew that conclusion (the entirety of your post)

This is a very ironic comment, given that nobody asked you to butt into this conversation. Since you're fixating on projecting, being negative and making unfounded accusations, I'm going to ignore your comments and continue my conversation with awillen.


> This is a very ironic comment

I mean it would be ironic if I wrote “I don’t shame people online because, forsooth, my ethics borne of the gauntlet of tragedy forbid it” or whatever but like instead I pointed out that the post you were getting indignant about actually sucked and deserved the criticism it got.


The only one attempting to speak from a moral or ethical high ground is you.

This conversation started with you bringing up your life-or-death principles in detail when you saw somebody mention using a rag to avoid burning themself with a cast iron pan and then asked for feedback on that post

I’m kind of bummed you edited out the “kindly fuck off” from a few minutes ago. It seemed honest.


Following the guidelines, I edited out a swipe. Multiple people have been honest about how awful you're being, but maybe you need a moderator to step in and give you tips on how to have a mature discussion?

This conversation started with you butting into another conversation I am having with another user, that user also having butt into a conversation I was having with yet another user. Your posts cannot be more off-topic. Your need to seek attention and make this about you, to flamebait and ignore nearly every HN guideline speaks for itself.


You asked for feedback on a downvoted post, I gave it, and then you told me to fuck off.

I’m not sure what outcome you wanted here, but there isn’t really any amount of attacking me that will make other people agree that seeing “leather pan handle covers” and posting 200 words about how your conscience wouldn’t allow you to be involved in the leather pan handle cover business isn’t shaming.

It’s a factually correct read. If you look at this thread, nobody is here saying “actually it is totally normal and not shaming to bring up how you live and die by principles that make it impossible to countenance selling leather pan handle covers in response to seeing somebody mention leather pan handle covers”. No amount of painting yourself as a victim of “having your question answered” is going to make other people change their correct interpretation of the post that you asked for feedback about.

It’s like you asked a question, didn’t like the answer, and then decided that it’s against the rules to answer the question that you asked.


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Sorry I don’t want to be presumptive, are you trying to say that:

in this one instance you took “what you said was weird and that’s why you got the response that you did” as being an attack on a person’s character,

or are you saying that

categorically, pointing out that “what you said was weird and that’s why you got the response that you did” is always an attack on somebody’s character?

Like I’m trying to figure out if you’re sharing that you misunderstood a single post or that you categorically don’t understand an entire realm of communication.


> Like I’m trying to figure out

Please, stop. You're not trying to figure anything out. Multiple people have issues with your comments and you're saying all of them are wrong.


By “all of them” are you talking about the post that made up stuff that I didn’t say and wholinator’s post about their feelings about somebody they’ve never interacted with? All of those two posts?

I appreciate your concern but “hey man, people are making stuff up in their heads about you and getting real mad about the stuff they are imagining. they’re saying you posted a value judgment about shaming on the internet, they’re saying that you posted Elvira Mistress Of The Dark is your aunt!” isn’t something that I can do much about. That’s just the internet for you.

Like I can’t do anything about wholinator or soulofmischief imagining that I wrote “shaming is bad and wrong and I don’t do it and if you caught me doing something like that it would undermine my entire point but also if you did it to me it would support your point and I’d be super owned” and basing their entire critique of what they may or may not have read on it




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